Comic Pants Podcast #18
Dave Farabee returns, joining the rest of the Panteon (D3 (David Martindale), Nick Budd, Randy Lander and Dan Grendell) to talk about costumes. Who has the best? Who has the worst? Which artists are classic designers, and which ones ruin everything? And what do the guys think about swashbuckler boots, domino masks and other superhero accoutrements? Plus, a viewer mail-incited diversion to talk about Heroes at a second glance.
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Ah costumes. Something that eats up endless hours of forum time.
As for worst…well Aquarian has to up there.
17 Feb 2007 at 4:11 am
QuoteCaptain America has to be my favorite design. Chainmail, whatever…I just absolutely love the design. Spider-man’s is pretty timeless, too. Iron Man has had a lot of classic looks, my favorite being the War Machine black and white.
As popular as they are, most of the X-men have had either generic or outright lame costumes. I love the classic green Phoenix costume, Wolverine’s brown costume is cool, and Nightcrawler’s is pretty good too, but every other mutant…meh.
And of course, the Punisher would have gotten nowhere without the cool skull.
17 Feb 2007 at 10:28 am
QuoteJohn Cassaday drew Cap’s chain mail really well. While my favourite costume is Daredevil’s, really liked Morrison & Quitely’s New X-Men look aswell. And of course you can’t go wrong with Batman. Loved the Planetary/Batman one shot where Cassaday drew all the different versions of Batman. Prefer the black cowl though.
17 Feb 2007 at 11:56 am
QuoteUltimate Iceman’s bandana? - yech.
17 Feb 2007 at 12:12 pm
QuoteYou’re taling about the classic grey, black, and red DD armor, right? :p
And the grey and blue Batman will always be my favorite. Black only works in the movies, at least for me.
17 Feb 2007 at 12:29 pm
QuoteAdd a mark in the pro Yellowjacket column for me. Story-wise I prefer Hank Pym to be Giant Man (just makes more sense in a fight), but Yellowjacket is definitely the best of his costumes. As for personal favorites, they might be boring answers but it’s hard to top Spidey (love the web-pits) and Batman. Then there’s Punisher which is a character I despise, but the original John Romita (I think that’s who did it) design is great. Oh yeah, and I freakin love Rorshach, who’s just a riff of the Question, but I’ve only recently been exposed to the latter. Thanks for answering my question by the way.
17 Feb 2007 at 12:33 pm
QuoteWhen you are talking about costume design, are you considering which costumes look good on people dressed up in conventions? Because I thought the Spawn costume looked neat until I saw someone dressed up as Spawn at a convention.
I can’t contribute to the costume idea too much, because I’m one of those who likes the look of uniforms or plainclothes more than costumes. I liked the black leather uniformed X-Men more than the bright colored X-Men, and I gravitate more towards character designs like Spider Jerusalem than I do super hero clothes.
Still, I love the conversation. Keep it up.
Quick question - are you going to put out a schedule of topics ahead of time or are you going to surprise us with a topic each time? Do you take topic suggestions? Just curious.
-RT
17 Feb 2007 at 2:09 pm
QuoteWhen I say black cowl I mean black with grey. Should’ve made that a bit clearer I guess. And you’re right, all black only really works in the movies.
This thread is kinda like a “what’s favourite movie” thread, you see all these great suggestions and go “why didn’t I think of that!”
17 Feb 2007 at 2:18 pm
Quotejust about to listen to the ‘cast - nice topic btw - before i do i wanna say the first two costumes that come to mind:: without doubt spider-man’s symbiote costume is imo the greates superhero costume that there ever was, is or will be. black head to toe, big white spider front and back, lenses and back-of-hand web shooters. beauty in its simplicity
second i agree with what i’ve read about the x-men costumes here sort of, i just can’t stand the random gaggle (gaggle?) of costumes - i like my x-men uniformed in yellow and black like first class and morrison’s new x-men.
that is all, let’s see what elce the ‘cast brings to mind…
17 Feb 2007 at 2:54 pm
QuoteHey, my mp3 clocks at 59min.. Is that the actual duration of the podcast?
17 Feb 2007 at 3:44 pm
QuoteThat sounds about right.
17 Feb 2007 at 7:05 pm
QuoteThe Golden Age and Silver Age Green Lantern costumes are two favourites.
18 Feb 2007 at 7:03 am
QuoteTaskmaster’s costume is one of the best villian desiegn, skull mask, hood and swashbuckler boots!
Doc Ock in the Italian suit seems right to me. He’s a pudgy middle aged guy so he should not be in tight’s for God’s sake!
Cap America is pure classic as is Neal Adam’s Batman. I loved Byrne’s FF uniforms.
18 Feb 2007 at 10:07 am
QuoteIf I had to vote I’d agree with Brian with Neal Adam’s Batman. Perfect…
18 Feb 2007 at 2:55 pm
QuoteActually, the podcast ran a little over an hour and a half, so it sounds like you might not’ve gotten it all.
18 Feb 2007 at 3:38 pm
QuoteTop costumes you left off, IMO:
Firestorm Okay, I’ve got mad geek love for the Ronnie Raymond/Martin Stein Firestorm. He had flaming hair, kind of a Kirby design, and did I mention, flaming hair?
Aquaman 1985 I’ve got a person rule that after twenty years of consistency, maybe the costume should get locked in. But that blue stealth suit that Arthur wore in the 1980’s miniseries just rocked.
Neal Adams Green Arrow Okay, I never believed that he could hide his identity with that facial hair, but the modern day Robin Hood look really worked.
Cockrum Lightning Lad Lightning bolts off the shoulders and an interesting color scheme. I dug it. I also liked the pink Saturn Girl outfit, but that’s probably a different thing.
Robot Brainiac I loved the super-robot redesign, right before the Crisis.
Kid Flash, yellow and red look I always thought that was a good look. Heck, everything in Flash looked cool, from Jay to Bart.
Captain Mar-vell, blue and red suit I don’t know if Starlin redesigned it or not, but it looked better than his Kree military look.
Ted Kord Blue Beetle Thick black lines shouldn’t work on a line drawing the way the Blue Beetle’s costume does. Very graphic look, and something more interesting than an emblem on a bodysuit.
Oh, some other quick comments:
- Bart Sears was one of my teachers at Kubert, and he said that the white-and-gold Power Girl outfit was supposed to be flesh-and-gold. Kind of glad they didn’t do that.
- You’re so right about how Alex Ross has started drawing his fat friends in costumes. And he didn’t used to be like that. “Marvels” was really good. But I want to see painted costumes that look like the Spider-Man movie. There’s NO WAY a high school kid could have made that thing, especially with no visible zippers, no seams, etc, but it looks the way the comic does.
-Swashbuckler boots rule!
–Thom Zahler
18 Feb 2007 at 5:25 pm
QuoteI’d say most of the Silver Age heroes and villains hold up pretty well costume wise. The Golden Age stuff is more of a mixed bag. I personally don’t care much for the Golden Age Flash or GL costumes. On the other hand, any attempt to dramatically change or update them is probably doomed to failure. It’s the same problem with the Martian Manhunter. His original costume wasn’t great, but any attempt to change it is going to look worse.
Jack of Hearts gets my vote for worst costume. I don’t care if Perez is drawing him or not, dressing like a giant playing card isn’t a great fashion move unless you’re in the Royal Flush Gang. I do agree that many costumes only work depending on the artist. Dr. Strange’s costume is a prime example of a costume that can look like crap when drawn poorly.
I’ll add my vote to the pro-Yellowjacket contingent. It’s way better than the Ant-man costume IMHO.
Listening to this podcast makes me wonder how many of us accept certain costumes simply because we’ve grown up with them and they’ve been around forever. Does this explain why it’s so hard to come up with more that a handful of examples for recent costumes that are memorable, or is simply that there’s not much new under the sun when it comes to super-hero costumes?
18 Feb 2007 at 5:26 pm
QuoteI’m a fan of the more classic costumes, mostly cause that what I grew up reading. I always thought the classic JLA Hawkman looked cool, simple but effective, too bad the character hasn’t been done justice as I think he’s potential.
As to as to worst costumes, well there is soooooo many but one that always bugged the crap out of me, and mind you I normally love the artist, is Jericho from the Teen Titans, the guy’s like some horrible ren faire mishap .
18 Feb 2007 at 6:44 pm
QuoteDoesn’t his cult leader costume at least kind of fit him, though? I haven’t read many stories with him, but I was under the impression that he was a spiritual, new-agey type.
18 Feb 2007 at 9:55 pm
QuoteY’know, I’ve never been a fan of the War Machine look, and I think it’s because it marks the point at which Iron Man started drifting away from the original, flexi-metal look and toward a more detailed, mecha-style. War Machine having actual cannons and stuff mounted on his shoulders…it just feels too literal, almost a step back in technology. I much prefer a pared-down, iconic look.
18 Feb 2007 at 10:16 pm
QuoteInteresting call. I think Daredevil’s costume kicks much butt too, but I can’t figure out why. Solid color with almost no detail for artists to play with? Doesn’t seem like it should work, but the D’s on the chest, the devil horns, and (sometimes) the holster for the billy club…somehow it all just looks great in the hands of the right artist. Maybe DD’s just lucky enough to’ve had a lot of geniuses like Colan and Miller and Mazzuchelli depicting him.
18 Feb 2007 at 10:31 pm
QuoteGood call, and another example of a Perez costume, I believe.
Sidebar: in the various Marvel/DC crossovers, has Taskmaster ever butted heads with Deathstroke? Seems like an obvious dust-up between two swashbuckler-boots-wearin’ badasses, but I can’t recall it happening. I’ve gotta think it’d be what kids and superhero-lovin’ adults refer to as “a good fight.”
18 Feb 2007 at 11:07 pm
QuoteI was rather confused that Mar-Vell wore a mask when he got the Red and Blue costume. Why? He didn’t have a secret identity on earth!
18 Feb 2007 at 11:42 pm
QuoteGood catch, and a perfect example of one of those costumes I knew we’d miss. It’s been kind of interesting watching the new Firestorm go through various tweaks on the original. In the interest of modernization, they’ve dropped the puffy sleeves and the shoulder points, and added some glowy tech-lines to the mask - none of which has made it a better costume.
Original: http://tinyurl.com/2uf2ov
New: http://tinyurl.com/36oewp
Modern costume theory is terrified to death of theatricality, ironic considering that theatricality always seemed to me to be an inextricable part of the superhero concept. I guess everyone got scared when superhero movies got popular again in the last few years. That sarcastic line from Singer’s first X-Men - “You’d prefer yellow spandex?” - I think it hurt the collective self-esteem of a genre that’s already got a history of self-esteem problems.
A good dark horse candidate, and I dug up an image so folks can check it out:
http://tinyurl.com/38vd6b
I still like the orange and green stuff best, though. In fact, most iterations of it have been good, from the original to the hook-hand armor to the Butch Guice redesign that’s appeared in the wake of Infinite Crisis. Even Alex Ross makes him look good. Unfortunately, the dude just doesn’t get any memorable stories to accompany all the good visuals…
Absolutely. I actually had the Adams costume in my podcast notes as an example of good costume evolutions, but somehow I skipped past it.
It’s funny - outside of the old, 80s Super Powers comic (not such a good toy tie-in), I don’t think I’ve actually read any Brainiac stories with the scary Terminator look. And yet it’s my favorite visual for the character. Go figure.
Another good ‘un. For whatever reason, he’s not a character that quickly pops to mind for his costume, but I remember really liking his look when I first chanced across it in the mid-80s DC miniseries, Legends. I’ve heard that mini was a real chore for John Byrne to draw (the usual crossover event chaos), but it was my intro to a lot of DC characters (including the mighty Suicide Squad), and I loved the hell out of the visuals. I even liked the much-maligned Black Canary costume of the era. Sure, it was pretty 80s, but y’know…it WAS the 80s!
Gah!
Hells yeah.
19 Feb 2007 at 1:43 am
QuoteDon’t remember if this was mentioned in the podcast, but how about Deadpool? Not my favorite character, but his costume design really works. The design fits right in with the Marvel U (I love the McFarlane Spidey eyes), but it’s not too over-the-top to mesh with the fact that he’s a sardonic assassin.
I’m talking about the more modern, less pouches, not-drawn-by-Liefeld look.
19 Feb 2007 at 10:20 am
QuoteI think you’re right, Kiel. His outfit works and really fits the character, though there is some that will say that he looks like Spider-Man with swords. And for the life of me, and though I do really like the character, I don’t know if I can argue with that line of thinking.
19 Feb 2007 at 11:17 am
QuoteMight not count, but I really enjoyed the Wildcats 3.0 Jack Marlowe. The silver business suit was pretty striking. Simple, but stylish.
19 Feb 2007 at 3:31 pm
QuoteI think it counts. It also had the added effect of making Jack Marlowe look really creepy and alien.
19 Feb 2007 at 4:52 pm
QuoteI don’t know if it counts, but I always dug Matt Wagner’s Mage. Yeah, a red T-shirt and jeans, does not a costume make, but with the lightning bolt, and throw in the magical baseball bat and you’ve got a great looking character.
And any conversation without also mentioning Grendel (Hunter Rose) in terms of awesome costumes, is just not complete…
Thinking about it, I don’t know if this counts as a costume, but it is a distinctive look, but Spider Jerusalem’s glasses pretty much epitomize the character perfectly. Not only are they different colors, but they’re different shapes as well, symbolizing how Spider views the world differently from the rest of the masses.
20 Feb 2007 at 12:37 am
QuoteGrendel, indeed.
I also have a soft spot for the black Spidey outfit (which now that I think of it, has a similar motif going on).
Brereton’s Gunwitch from ‘the Nocturnal’s’ was always a fave of mine. Something about the pointy hat and scarecrow grin…
For some reason, I always had a soft spot for some of the ‘Night Shift’ - who are really just 3rd tier Avengers villains. It’s likely that the horror element of the team is what appealed to me, but I particularly dug ‘Needle’ and ‘the Brothers Grim’. I’d look up links, but that would require more effort than I’m willing to expend right now.
20 Feb 2007 at 8:46 am
QuoteI feel that a few semi-indie character costumes were left out, and that they should get a nod here.
Hunter Rose, in his tux and mask, as well as Eppy Thatcher and Grendel Prime are some of the all-time kick-ass grendel costumes.
And as far as purple cosumes go, you can’t forget about the Maxx.
The snazziest dressed adventurer would have to be Madman in the Tundra series.
Also Cosmo Quinn aka The Human Fly costume from Terminal City by Motter and Lark has a neat realistic design.
You guys were spot-on for these cotumes: The Sandman (Guy Davis), The Phantom Stranger (Mignola), Dr. Mid-Nite (Wagner), and Batman (Pope) are all superbly drawn by these artists.
Thanks for the fun podcast!
20 Feb 2007 at 12:05 pm
QuoteThere are 3 80’s classics on my list:
- Havok had a simple, yet great costume.
- In that same vein, the classic Bullseye was great too. The redo by Maleev was excellent, but I don’t know if that came as a result of the movie.
- All-time favorite is both the original Snake Eyes costume, and then the 1985 revamp (including the visor). His costume is why Snake Eyes is badass. The ‘85 Snake Eyes had a WHOLE lotta pouches!
For great character designs in the last 10 to 20 years, Elijah Snow. Great, simple, and very suave.
20 Feb 2007 at 1:32 pm
QuoteStretching the definition of costume.. I agree with JAbrams’ comment on Spider Jerusalem’s glasses.. I’d throw in his tattoos too. How about Jesse Custer’s collar? Cougar’s hat from The Losers? Lucifer’s hair as horns?
I suppose that’s getting out of costumes and into character design (as stated by Micah Henry).
The Monarch from “The Venture Brothers”.. now there’s a costume.. even his slicked up armored version.
“Dude! These wings actually work? How come nobody told me that!”
20 Feb 2007 at 1:43 pm
QuoteCouldn’t agree more. It’s beauty is in it’s simplicity really. I’d put Romita Jr in that list of great Daredevil artists also. But then again I love everything he does. Slightly off point, can’t wait to get my hands on a copy of next week’s Daredevil #94. Romita Sr cover!!
20 Feb 2007 at 1:58 pm
QuoteHavok’s is pretty cool. I don’t like the helmet/mask thing, and I don’t like the shoulder pads and stuff that Larocca added fairly recently. I’m thinking of some of those cool Neal Adams covers, like this one:
http://perso.orange.fr/mracaud/uncannyxmen/58.jpg
I always thought the green/yellow/red Vision costume was pretty striking, too. In fact, the Avengers have had some of the best, with Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Wasp, Black Panther, Vision, and now, Spider-man and Wolverine :P, especially compared to Marvel’s other two major teams, X-men and FF.
20 Feb 2007 at 4:42 pm
QuoteNot to be nitpicky, but the character actually had a black shirt.
20 Feb 2007 at 5:44 pm
QuoteDaredevil’s costume is a sleek looking one, I’ll grant you that. And even though I may be crucified (or just mocked, possibly), I’m going to say that his original one by Bill Everet and Stan Lee (I think that’s right) was better.
http://tinyurl.com/3db8bq
It’s his classic look and I don’t know, something about the black, yellow and hints of red really makes him pop. And not to mention that Tim Sale really sold it during Daredevil Yellow
20 Feb 2007 at 6:19 pm
QuoteYou know, for me, Spider Jerusalem does wear a costume. Maybe not the whole mask and cape type of costume that we are talking about, but his glasses and his tattoos (and the fact that he wore the same black jacket and pants for the majority of the 60 issue run) really scream costume to me.
20 Feb 2007 at 6:26 pm
QuoteWell, Micah, you start getting into the G.I. Joe costumes and designs and you’ve got a whole mess of good ones. They may have been uniforms (some of them at least) but you hit it right on the nose with Snake Eyes. His visor one is bad ass, and yet I’m a bigger fan of the original look. The goggles outfit is just awesome looking. Sort of follows along the same lines as Daredevil, as it’s sleek and very simple looking.
http://tinyurl.com/2dbhtw
20 Feb 2007 at 6:35 pm
QuoteWow, I’m late to the party on this one… Well, I’ve been busy buying a comic book store, so y’all get a big giant response:
Rob T (aka gamookie) said:
When you are talking about costume design, are you considering which costumes look good on people dressed up in conventions? Because I thought the Spawn costume looked neat until I saw someone dressed up as Spawn at a convention.
I dunno, that’s a pretty harsh standard to apply: What looks good on people in the real world? 99% of superhero costumes fail that test on most of the population that isn’t a buffed-up actor or supermodel.
Quick question - are you going to put out a schedule of topics ahead of time or are you going to surprise us with a topic each time? Do you take topic suggestions? Just curious.
We will be surprising you, just as we surprise ourselves.
There may come a day when we’ll have some sort of schedule, but since we haven’t stuck to our roughly planned topics, I don’t think we’ll start announcing anytime soon. The flexibility is kind of nice. As for suggestions… definitely. Throw ‘em here or in email.
fanboy d said:
just about to listen to the ‘cast - nice topic btw - before i do i wanna say the first two costumes that come to mind:: without doubt spider-man’s symbiote costume is imo the greates superhero costume that there ever was, is or will be. black head to toe, big white spider front and back, lenses and back-of-hand web shooters. beauty in its simplicity
The black Spider-Man costume is indeed one of the best costume designs of the last 20 years… but it can’t stand up to the classic red and blue for me, even as much as I love it.
second i agree with what i’ve read about the x-men costumes here sort of, i just can’t stand the random gaggle (gaggle?) of costumes - i like my x-men uniformed in yellow and black like first class and morrison’s new x-men.
I like both. There’s something kind of cool about the John Byrne, John Romita Jr. or even Marc Silvestri and Jim Lee multi-colored costume assortment of the X-Men. It makes them look like a diverse team of individuals, rather than an army. In my heart of hearts, I prefer the X-Men in the yellow (and red, and black, and blue, etc.) spandex, even though the Frank Quitely New X-Men uniforms were swanky.
Brian Burkart said:
Taskmaster’s costume is one of the best villian desiegn, skull mask, hood and swashbuckler boots!
I have a fondness for the character and that costume, but in the wrong hands, it can be a bit garish. That said, I prefer that look to the somewhat bland Udon Studios redesign from a few years back. Although I’m not crazy with the version that David Finch has given us, where it looks more like an actual skull than a skull mask. Dude ain’t the Red Skull… he’s a mercenary in a mask.
Thomas Zahler said:
Firestorm Okay, I’ve got mad geek love for the Ronnie Raymond/Martin Stein Firestorm. He had flaming hair, kind of a Kirby design, and did I mention, flaming hair?
Aquaman 1985 I’ve got a person rule that after twenty years of consistency, maybe the costume should get locked in. But that blue stealth suit that Arthur wore in the 1980’s miniseries just rocked.
Two of my favorites, and my thoughts are about the same as yours. The original Firestorm was a classic look, and as Dave said, none of the tweaks have improved on it. And the Aquaman blue costume (designed by Neal Pozner, I believe) was a favorite of mine as well. Tempest adopted a red version when Phil Jimenez (Pozner’s boyfriend) wrote a miniseries that was part Tempest re-invention and part Pozner tribute (and all really good mini), and while it’s a cool look, the blue suit on Aquaman was even better.
Kid Flash, yellow and red look I always thought that was a good look. Heck, everything in Flash looked cool, from Jay to Bart.
Right there with you as well. Love the Kid Flash look, and while the Impulse design was OK, I was glad to see Bart go back to being Kid Flash.
Kiel said:
Don’t remember if this was mentioned in the podcast, but how about Deadpool? Not my favorite character, but his costume design really works. The design fits right in with the Marvel U (I love the McFarlane Spidey eyes), but it’s not too over-the-top to mesh with the fact that he’s a sardonic assassin.
No love from me for the Deadpool costume, I’m afraid. All I say is Liefeld ripping off Spidey, from design to personality, and making him an assassin to make him kewl. I liked what Joe Kelly did with the character, but that is a guy who could use some sort of less generic costume redesign in my eyes. Maybe some swashbuckler boots and a sash.
jabrams said:
I don’t know if it counts, but I always dug Matt Wagner’s Mage. Yeah, a red T-shirt and jeans, does not a costume make, but with the lightning bolt, and throw in the magical baseball bat and you’ve got a great looking character.
Yeah, love both of those as well. Matt Wagner has a real strong sense of design, and his semi-autobiographical look for Mage is especially cool. One of my favorite T-Shirts (I need to get a new one, because it’s wearing out) is the Graphitti Designs’ Mage White Bolt on Black. And Grendel, as you mention, is cool as well.
Murphy said:
For some reason, I always had a soft spot for some of the ‘Night Shift’ - who are really just 3rd tier Avengers villains. It’s likely that the horror element of the team is what appealed to me, but I particularly dug ‘Needle’ and ‘the Brothers Grim’. I’d look up links, but that would require more effort than I’m willing to expend right now.
There’s a great bit in the opening of a later issue of West Coast Avengers where Digger (another member of the Night Shift) is burying somebody in the middle of the road. Loved that. I love the Night Shift, and think the right writer could make a really cool mini or even ongoing with them. I mean, horror-themed supervillains/vigilantes, whose leader is a blinded cultist who went undercover as a mob boss? That’s a fantastic concept, and the characters are rife with psychological issues and cool designs.
Micah Henry said:
There are 3 80’s classics on my list:
- Havok had a simple, yet great costume.
- In that same vein, the classic Bullseye was great too. The redo by Maleev was excellent, but I don’t know if that came as a result of the movie.
- All-time favorite is both the original Snake Eyes costume, and then the 1985 revamp (including the visor). His costume is why Snake Eyes is badass. The ‘85 Snake Eyes had a WHOLE lotta pouches!
Love all three of these, especially Snake Eyes. That was a great look… simple but cool. Not a fan of the plainclothes Bullseye revamp, though… glad to see him back in his classic look for the new Thunderbolts series.
20 Feb 2007 at 7:09 pm
QuoteWhile I wouldn’t go so far as to say I liked the original better I do get what what your saying Nick, and agree that the original has a high degree of pop and retro coolness, especially as depicted by Sale. But then my favorite look for the Angel was his crazy Neal Adams era costume so I might not be the best judge of cool or maybe I just like yellow and red together.
http://www.universomarvel.com/usa/portadas/uxm57.jpg
20 Feb 2007 at 8:36 pm
QuoteCongrats on the shop! You’re moving it to 6th Street right?
Sounds like a pretty nice place…I’ll be looking at UT sometime soon, so maybe I’ll be able to drop by.
20 Feb 2007 at 10:39 pm
QuoteYeah, Tim Sale really knocked that one out of the park. Dave Farabee really hit the nail on the nail on the head when he said Daredevil has been blessed by great artists, red or yellow costumes
21 Feb 2007 at 6:17 am
QuoteI really like Gladiator’s whole look, costume and mohawk and all. I think it’s been one of the best designs done, period.
Also like Guardian’s costume (from Alpha Flight), simple, yet iconic.
Love, love LOVE Spidey’s black costume. Prefer it over the red and blue classic design. Have a feeling that if Ditko designed that costume instead of the red and blue design, there would never have been a red and blue design.
I like Wolverine’s costume from X-Men: Evolution. As far as comics go, I can’t stand the recent Astonishing X-Men update of the yellow and blue. Brown and tan is the way to go. As far as X-Men go, I love the idea of X-Men in uniforms. Loved the fact that Quitely designed similar outfits that could be changed around enough to give each character personality. Also the selection of characters distinguished them from each other. Wolverine with no shirt. Cyclops wearing full gear. Jean wearing mostly the sweater. Beast wearing a tuxedo-esque alteration. Very cool.
For complicated designs, I really liked Steve McNiven’s Ultimate Captain Marvel. Just awesome to look at, IMO.
22 Feb 2007 at 4:21 am
Quotethat was a v. good ‘cast guys
no mention of MYSTERIO though?! c’mon…you scared a fight may break out? lol
i stand by what i said before with spider-man and the x-men, i’m more fond of the brown wolvee costume for no reason other than it’s darker. wolverine got rid of the pants btw, you didn’t mention that! yeah superman can never escape them no matter how goofy people may think they are because he’s so synonomous with them and he is the definitive superhero - people wanna be able to make ‘pants on the outside’ jokes.
oh and electric superman has to be the worst costume change ever, not necessarily worst costume but worst change. if that was a new character probably wouldn’t think twice but SUPERMAN?! hell no. cyclops and wolverine both used to have exo-pants so i think you’re right with the x-men, they move forward and it’s weird if they went back.
not much talk about movie costumes wither but i’m one of the few that liked the superman returns one, i really dig the spider-man one (thoug i remember hearing alex ross can’t stand the raised webbing which amuses me cos he draws one of the worst spideys around - loose fitting mast? wtf.)
the rest of scomic outfits are pretty unfaithful in cinema and in a bad way. correct me if i’m wrong.
p.s. i think the blogosphere should start a petition to give luke cage a costume, street clothes are pretty much the most annoying way to go with him - it’s like marvel thinks he won’t be cool in a costume. they really need to give him one, yellow and remeniscent of his old one, though possibly sans-tiara (sorry, crown)
22 Feb 2007 at 4:30 am
QuoteI used to like Hank Pym’s original Goliath costume (though at the time I thought it was purple and yellow, I see in these it often looks blue).
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/avengers/images/panel_avg030b.jpg
http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/avengers/images/panel_avg028b.jpg
http://www.samcci.comics.org/avengers/aven035.jpg
–Mike
23 Feb 2007 at 12:17 am
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