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		<title>By: Kyoko</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4906</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyoko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4128"]My only qualm is that I don't think DC knows who Supergirl is.  Is she the confused firebrand from her own series, the Mary Sue from Legion, or this hybrid of the two?  I like her in Legion, and like her here, but I wonder why the editors can't decide "this is who she is".[/quote]

I know what you mean, it took some getting used to, but it actually makes sense. The Mary Sue is a year younger than the confused firebrand, what with the infinite crisis and all. I guess during the course of the Legion-series we're gonna see some dark development there...</description>
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My only qualm is that I don&#8217;t think DC knows who Supergirl is.  Is she the confused firebrand from her own series, the Mary Sue from Legion, or this hybrid of the two?  I like her in Legion, and like her here, but I wonder why the editors can&#8217;t decide &#8220;this is who she is&#8221;.</p>
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<p>I know what you mean, it took some getting used to, but it actually makes sense. The Mary Sue is a year younger than the confused firebrand, what with the infinite crisis and all. I guess during the course of the Legion-series we&#8217;re gonna see some dark development there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe "green cubicle". I like Mark Waid's Supergirl, I used to buy Ka-Zar when he was writer. I'm a 24 year old male and have to admit that I would find it extremely difficult to resist Kara's affection, does that make me a perv? x_x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe &#8220;green cubicle&#8221;. I like Mark Waid&#8217;s Supergirl, I used to buy Ka-Zar when he was writer. I&#8217;m a 24 year old male and have to admit that I would find it extremely difficult to resist Kara&#8217;s affection, does that make me a perv? x_x</p>
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		<title>By: d3 aka david martindale</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>d3 aka david martindale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4142"]If it was up to me though, I'd want the character to be similar to the way she was portrayed in the &lt;em&gt;Justice League Unlimited &lt;/em&gt;cartoon, as it is probably my favorite version in general.[/quote]

Seconded.  The JLU Powergirl was pretty cool too.</description>
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If it was up to me though, I&#8217;d want the character to be similar to the way she was portrayed in the <em>Justice League Unlimited </em>cartoon, as it is probably my favorite version in general.</p>
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<p>Seconded.  The JLU Powergirl was pretty cool too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Budd</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Budd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4128"]
My only qualm is that I don't think DC knows who Supergirl is.  Is she the confused firebrand from her own series, the Mary Sue from Legion, or this hybrid of the two?  I like her in Legion, and like her here, but I wonder why the editors can't decide "this is who she is".[/quote]

Yeah, I can't quite figure this out myself.  For me, the hybrid Supergirl that appears here is the best version that's appeared in comics.  A fine mix of farm girl naivetÃ©, cleverness and the ability to smash things to bits.  I'm not really a big fan of her new series, even though every now and then there's a issue that is fairly entertaining.  

If it was up to me though, I'd want the character to be similar to the way she was portrayed in the &lt;em&gt;Justice League Unlimited &lt;/em&gt;cartoon, as it is probably my favorite version in general.</description>
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<p>My only qualm is that I don&#8217;t think DC knows who Supergirl is.  Is she the confused firebrand from her own series, the Mary Sue from Legion, or this hybrid of the two?  I like her in Legion, and like her here, but I wonder why the editors can&#8217;t decide &#8220;this is who she is&#8221;.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I can&#8217;t quite figure this out myself.  For me, the hybrid Supergirl that appears here is the best version that&#8217;s appeared in comics.  A fine mix of farm girl naivetÃ©, cleverness and the ability to smash things to bits.  I&#8217;m not really a big fan of her new series, even though every now and then there&#8217;s a issue that is fairly entertaining.  </p>
<p>If it was up to me though, I&#8217;d want the character to be similar to the way she was portrayed in the <em>Justice League Unlimited </em>cartoon, as it is probably my favorite version in general.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4133</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found brave and bold annoying and too cute for it's own good</description>
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		<title>By: Simon DelMonte</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4128</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon DelMonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this issue was a good deal better than the first, which was entertaining but a bit by-the-book.  This time out, the art is much more dynamic, the ch aracter play feels fresh, and the story really grabs me.

My only qualm is that I don't think DC knows who Supergirl is.  Is she the confused firebrand from her own series, the Mary Sue from Legion, or this hybrid of the two?  I like her in Legion, and like her here, but I wonder why the editors can't decide "this is who she is".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this issue was a good deal better than the first, which was entertaining but a bit by-the-book.  This time out, the art is much more dynamic, the ch aracter play feels fresh, and the story really grabs me.</p>
<p>My only qualm is that I don&#8217;t think DC knows who Supergirl is.  Is she the confused firebrand from her own series, the Mary Sue from Legion, or this hybrid of the two?  I like her in Legion, and like her here, but I wonder why the editors can&#8217;t decide &#8220;this is who she is&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Grendell</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4126</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Grendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4124"]

Actually, Murdoch can just say that the girl told him she was 18 and get away with it because really, how could he tell.[/quote]

"Seriously, Officer, she totally smelled 18..."</description>
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<p>Actually, Murdoch can just say that the girl told him she was 18 and get away with it because really, how could he tell.</p>
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<p>&#8220;Seriously, Officer, she totally smelled 18&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hellhound</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4124</link>
		<dc:creator>Hellhound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4110"]

No. Daredevil is just plain blind to the existence of those laws. It's a hole in his law school education.[/quote]

Actually, Murdoch can just say that the girl told him she was 18 and get away with it because really, how could he tell.</description>
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<p>No. Daredevil is just plain blind to the existence of those laws. It&#8217;s a hole in his law school education.</p>
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<p>Actually, Murdoch can just say that the girl told him she was 18 and get away with it because really, how could he tell.</p>
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		<title>By: D3 aka David Martindale</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4118</link>
		<dc:creator>D3 aka David Martindale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4115"]

Here's one of my regular questions in my search for new books....how accessible is this book? Dropping a lot of Marvel stuff, so I got more money to spare, and Perez is always an attraction on any book. I pretty much have no knowledge of the DCU, but that page in the review looks pretty funny, actually. Think I'd be able to follow and understand, in general?

Just so long as it's not as self-indulgent as the ill-fated Marvel Team-Up...[/quote]

Not a problem.  It's a very approachable book.  In fact, it would be a book I would specifically recommend to DC newcomers.  It's very continuity light.</description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s one of my regular questions in my search for new books&#8230;.how accessible is this book? Dropping a lot of Marvel stuff, so I got more money to spare, and Perez is always an attraction on any book. I pretty much have no knowledge of the DCU, but that page in the review looks pretty funny, actually. Think I&#8217;d be able to follow and understand, in general?</p>
<p>Just so long as it&#8217;s not as self-indulgent as the ill-fated Marvel Team-Up&#8230;</p>
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<p>Not a problem.  It&#8217;s a very approachable book.  In fact, it would be a book I would specifically recommend to DC newcomers.  It&#8217;s very continuity light.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiel</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4115</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4110"]

No. Daredevil is just plain blind to the existence of those laws. It's a hole in his law school education.[/quote]

Touche!

Here's one of my regular questions in my search for new books....how accessible is this book? Dropping a lot of Marvel stuff, so I got more money to spare, and Perez is always an attraction on any book. I pretty much have no knowledge of the DCU, but that page in the review looks pretty funny, actually. Think I'd be able to follow and understand, in general? 

Just so long as it's not as self-indulgent as the ill-fated Marvel Team-Up...</description>
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<p>No. Daredevil is just plain blind to the existence of those laws. It&#8217;s a hole in his law school education.</p>
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<p>Touche!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one of my regular questions in my search for new books&#8230;.how accessible is this book? Dropping a lot of Marvel stuff, so I got more money to spare, and Perez is always an attraction on any book. I pretty much have no knowledge of the DCU, but that page in the review looks pretty funny, actually. Think I&#8217;d be able to follow and understand, in general? </p>
<p>Just so long as it&#8217;s not as self-indulgent as the ill-fated Marvel Team-Up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Grendell</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4110</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Grendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4109"]

Does this mean Daredevil is similarly immune?[/quote]

No. Daredevil is just plain blind to the existence of those laws. It's a hole in his law school education.</description>
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<p>Does this mean Daredevil is similarly immune?</p>
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<p>No. Daredevil is just plain blind to the existence of those laws. It&#8217;s a hole in his law school education.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Lander</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4109</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Lander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 05:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="4098"]Now before anybody labels my a hypocrite, I'll readily admit I look at 16 and 17 year old girls and have to remind myself that they aren't really adults yet.  Yes, Hal gives Kara the whole speech about not hitting on everything with two legs, but that's not enough; he should have never been tempted in the first place.  My problem isn't that an older man gets tempted by a teen girl; my problem is that it was Hal Jordan.  If we only held superheroes to the same set of standards that we hold ourselves, they wouldn't be very super would they?[/quote]

I'm usually with you on this kind of thing, D3, that heroes are supposed to be held to a higher standard. But the Hal/Kara flirtation, and Hal's obvious discomfort with it being used for comedic value, were some of my favorite parts of Brave and the Bold #3, and here's why:

1) As Sean points out, Hal does have a bit of a history with the underage ladies
2) It was funny, and Hal was basically acting like a horndog pilot (which he is) trying to restrain those tendencies in the name of being a role model and hero (which he also is). I liked the struggle, I found it in character, and again, I found it kind of cute and funny.

Just not as funny as this rationale for it.

[quote comment="4102"]I like perv Hal. I like to think that the man with no fear would fear no statutory rape law.[/quote]

Does this mean Daredevil is similarly immune?</description>
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Now before anybody labels my a hypocrite, I&#8217;ll readily admit I look at 16 and 17 year old girls and have to remind myself that they aren&#8217;t really adults yet.  Yes, Hal gives Kara the whole speech about not hitting on everything with two legs, but that&#8217;s not enough; he should have never been tempted in the first place.  My problem isn&#8217;t that an older man gets tempted by a teen girl; my problem is that it was Hal Jordan.  If we only held superheroes to the same set of standards that we hold ourselves, they wouldn&#8217;t be very super would they?</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m usually with you on this kind of thing, D3, that heroes are supposed to be held to a higher standard. But the Hal/Kara flirtation, and Hal&#8217;s obvious discomfort with it being used for comedic value, were some of my favorite parts of Brave and the Bold #3, and here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>1) As Sean points out, Hal does have a bit of a history with the underage ladies<br />
2) It was funny, and Hal was basically acting like a horndog pilot (which he is) trying to restrain those tendencies in the name of being a role model and hero (which he also is). I liked the struggle, I found it in character, and again, I found it kind of cute and funny.</p>
<p>Just not as funny as this rationale for it.</p>
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I like perv Hal. I like to think that the man with no fear would fear no statutory rape law.</p>
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<p>Does this mean Daredevil is similarly immune?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4105</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, he carried on with that Green Lantern cadet years and years ago (before Johns retconned her age).</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Grendell</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4102</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Grendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like perv Hal. I like to think that the man with no fear would fear no statutory rape law.</description>
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		<title>By: Glen Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picked up the 1st issue and too be honest, thought is was only average. It was a solid read but nothing spectacular and there wasn't enough to make me pick up the second issue. Although that page above was quite funny. Don't think it was too weird/wrong cause even though I haven't read much Green Lantern over the years part of his appeal is that he's an everyman who happens to have superpowers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picked up the 1st issue and too be honest, thought is was only average. It was a solid read but nothing spectacular and there wasn&#8217;t enough to make me pick up the second issue. Although that page above was quite funny. Don&#8217;t think it was too weird/wrong cause even though I haven&#8217;t read much Green Lantern over the years part of his appeal is that he&#8217;s an everyman who happens to have superpowers.</p>
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		<title>By: D3 aka David Martindale</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-4098</link>
		<dc:creator>D3 aka David Martindale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were a lot of things about this book that were really good.  I especially enjoyed Ventura, the gambling planet.  Unfortunately there was one specific aspect that kept distracting me from all the good things the title had to offer:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Though, the running gag that Hal has to keep reminding himself every time Supergirl flirts with him or throws sexual advances his way, that sheâ€™s in fact 17 years old and in many ways just a kid, is classic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It didn't feel classic to me.  In fact, it felt like Hal Jordan spent more time perving on an underage girl than solving a mystery in this issue.  My big question is:  When is the porno music going to kick in?

Now you could say that I've just seen too many pornos (and you would be right) but the whole teen girl in knee high boots and short skirt flirting with the older authority figure, who has to continually remind himself that he shouldn't go there, is THE classic porno introduction.

Now before anybody labels my a hypocrite, I'll readily admit I look at 16 and 17 year old girls and have to remind myself that they aren't really adults yet.  Yes, Hal gives Kara the whole speech about not hitting on everything with two legs, but that's not enough; he should have never been tempted in the first place.  My problem isn't that an older man gets tempted by a teen girl; my problem is that it was Hal Jordan.  If we only held superheroes to the same set of standards that we hold ourselves, they wouldn't be very super would they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a lot of things about this book that were really good.  I especially enjoyed Ventura, the gambling planet.  Unfortunately there was one specific aspect that kept distracting me from all the good things the title had to offer:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://comicpants.com/2007/03/the-brave-and-the-bold-2/#comment-"><p>Though, the running gag that Hal has to keep reminding himself every time Supergirl flirts with him or throws sexual advances his way, that sheâ€™s in fact 17 years old and in many ways just a kid, is classic.</p>
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<p>It didn&#8217;t feel classic to me.  In fact, it felt like Hal Jordan spent more time perving on an underage girl than solving a mystery in this issue.  My big question is:  When is the porno music going to kick in?</p>
<p>Now you could say that I&#8217;ve just seen too many pornos (and you would be right) but the whole teen girl in knee high boots and short skirt flirting with the older authority figure, who has to continually remind himself that he shouldn&#8217;t go there, is THE classic porno introduction.</p>
<p>Now before anybody labels my a hypocrite, I&#8217;ll readily admit I look at 16 and 17 year old girls and have to remind myself that they aren&#8217;t really adults yet.  Yes, Hal gives Kara the whole speech about not hitting on everything with two legs, but that&#8217;s not enough; he should have never been tempted in the first place.  My problem isn&#8217;t that an older man gets tempted by a teen girl; my problem is that it was Hal Jordan.  If we only held superheroes to the same set of standards that we hold ourselves, they wouldn&#8217;t be very super would they?</p>
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