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	<title>Comments on: Comic Pants Podcast #25</title>
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		<title>By: NathanK</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-5107</link>
		<dc:creator>NathanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Dan! I'm back to intrigued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dan! I&#8217;m back to intrigued.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Grendell</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-5098</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Grendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="5077"]OK, you guys have gotten me intrigued on Fourth World. However, from what I've read, the story got cancelled/discontinued before Kirby could write the ending. I'm not really interested in dropping $200 on half a story. So, am I misinformed? Is there an ending?[/quote]


Is there an end? No, in the same way that most comics series don't end. Stories continue being told involving various characters. Kirby envisioned his Fourth World as a new mythology, and it was cancelled before all of his plans came about, but that doesn't mean that what we have is half a story. What exists of purely Kirby's work is, like mythology, a number of stand-alone stories that all tie to each other thematically or via characters or places. 

If you are asking if the story doesn't make any sense because we don't have the last parts of whatever Kirby planned, then the answer is it does make sense. It isn't built like a modern Vertigo series, where a beginning, middle, and end are required. There were ideas that Kirby never got to use, but that doesn't take anything away from what we do have. Later creators like John Byrne and Walter Simonson took the foundation that Kirby created and worked to develop it further, but Kirby's stuff stands alone just fine.</description>
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OK, you guys have gotten me intrigued on Fourth World. However, from what I&#8217;ve read, the story got cancelled/discontinued before Kirby could write the ending. I&#8217;m not really interested in dropping $200 on half a story. So, am I misinformed? Is there an ending?</p>
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<p>Is there an end? No, in the same way that most comics series don&#8217;t end. Stories continue being told involving various characters. Kirby envisioned his Fourth World as a new mythology, and it was cancelled before all of his plans came about, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that what we have is half a story. What exists of purely Kirby&#8217;s work is, like mythology, a number of stand-alone stories that all tie to each other thematically or via characters or places. </p>
<p>If you are asking if the story doesn&#8217;t make any sense because we don&#8217;t have the last parts of whatever Kirby planned, then the answer is it does make sense. It isn&#8217;t built like a modern Vertigo series, where a beginning, middle, and end are required. There were ideas that Kirby never got to use, but that doesn&#8217;t take anything away from what we do have. Later creators like John Byrne and Walter Simonson took the foundation that Kirby created and worked to develop it further, but Kirby&#8217;s stuff stands alone just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: NathanK</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-5077</link>
		<dc:creator>NathanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, you guys have gotten me intrigued on Fourth World. However, from what I've read, the story got cancelled/discontinued before Kirby could write the ending. I'm not really interested in dropping $200 on half a story. So, am I misinformed? Is there an ending?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, you guys have gotten me intrigued on Fourth World. However, from what I&#8217;ve read, the story got cancelled/discontinued before Kirby could write the ending. I&#8217;m not really interested in dropping $200 on half a story. So, am I misinformed? Is there an ending?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Lander</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4967</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Lander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. I always thought it was "Guym'n." I'll try to remember the proper pronunciation in future podcasts. Thanks for the tip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. I always thought it was &#8220;Guym&#8217;n.&#8221; I&#8217;ll try to remember the proper pronunciation in future podcasts. Thanks for the tip!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kemp</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4963</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 15:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that Neil Gaiman's name cropped up again in passing and thought it worth pointing out that he does not pronounce his name &lt;a href="http://www.neilgaiman.com/faqs/ongaimanfaq#q1" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Guym'n" but rather "Gaym'n"&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that Neil Gaiman&#8217;s name cropped up again in passing and thought it worth pointing out that he does not pronounce his name <a href="http://www.neilgaiman.com/faqs/ongaimanfaq#q1" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Guym&#8217;n&#8221; but rather &#8220;Gaym&#8217;n&#8221;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Hellhound</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4954</link>
		<dc:creator>Hellhound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think DC is definitely hurting themselves in the long run with a weekly book. Maybe people aren't dropping 4 or 5 monthly DC books to make room on their list, but I think that more often than not, new DC books are struggling because people are already committed to a weekly DC series and don't have room for something else new. Not that I'm a big fan of Marvel's current marketing strategies either.

What I'm looking forward to:

*&lt;i&gt;Silverfish&lt;/i&gt; by David Lapham
*&lt;i&gt;Mouse Guard HC&lt;/i&gt; (I missed the boat on this one and I'm looking forward to seeing if it lives up to the hype)
*&lt;i&gt;The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier&lt;/i&gt; (If it ever friggin' comes out.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think DC is definitely hurting themselves in the long run with a weekly book. Maybe people aren&#8217;t dropping 4 or 5 monthly DC books to make room on their list, but I think that more often than not, new DC books are struggling because people are already committed to a weekly DC series and don&#8217;t have room for something else new. Not that I&#8217;m a big fan of Marvel&#8217;s current marketing strategies either.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m looking forward to:</p>
<p>*<i>Silverfish</i> by David Lapham<br />
*<i>Mouse Guard HC</i> (I missed the boat on this one and I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing if it lives up to the hype)<br />
*<i>The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier</i> (If it ever friggin&#8217; comes out.)</p>
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		<title>By: DeeSnider</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4953</link>
		<dc:creator>DeeSnider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm really looking forward to Champions (or whatever it ends being able to be titled.)

An Avengers West Coast team written by Matt Fraction, as an old school Wackos fanboy, I'm pretty excited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really looking forward to Champions (or whatever it ends being able to be titled.)</p>
<p>An Avengers West Coast team written by Matt Fraction, as an old school Wackos fanboy, I&#8217;m pretty excited.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Newman</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4952</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally can't wait for Daredevil #100 in a few months. John Romita Sr., Gene Colan, Lee Bermejo, Alex Maleev &#38; Marko Djurdjevic all joining Lark &#38; Gaudiano on the interiors is a mouthwatering prospect. And the cover by Djurdjevic is absolutely amazing. Brubaker's definitely building towards something great I feel.

Looking forward to World War Hulk too. Wasn't sure to begin with but the recent prologues have won me over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally can&#8217;t wait for Daredevil #100 in a few months. John Romita Sr., Gene Colan, Lee Bermejo, Alex Maleev &amp; Marko Djurdjevic all joining Lark &amp; Gaudiano on the interiors is a mouthwatering prospect. And the cover by Djurdjevic is absolutely amazing. Brubaker&#8217;s definitely building towards something great I feel.</p>
<p>Looking forward to World War Hulk too. Wasn&#8217;t sure to begin with but the recent prologues have won me over.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Agen</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4948</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Agen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 16:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all over the Minx line.  Partially cause of the talent, and partially because I want my neice to have a nice library of available books when she grows up.  Booyah!

Other things I'm looking forward too?  I dunno.. more Monster.  Uh.. more BKV at Vertigo (unannounced, but you know it's gonna happen) and Buffy.  I am excited for the first collection of Carey's "Midnight Crossing".

I don't have a good mind of "what's coming"..  I just track it on my amazon list and then forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all over the Minx line.  Partially cause of the talent, and partially because I want my neice to have a nice library of available books when she grows up.  Booyah!</p>
<p>Other things I&#8217;m looking forward too?  I dunno.. more Monster.  Uh.. more BKV at Vertigo (unannounced, but you know it&#8217;s gonna happen) and Buffy.  I am excited for the first collection of Carey&#8217;s &#8220;Midnight Crossing&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a good mind of &#8220;what&#8217;s coming&#8221;..  I just track it on my amazon list and then forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian J.</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4946</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 04:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark me down as someone who is looking forward to the Minx line!</description>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4945</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you guys said, I know I'm being manipulated, but I do find myself looking forward to World War Hulk.  Mainly I'm just hoping for a Marvel Universe comic that is fun to read.  Also on the Marvel front, I am excited to see Ultimates volume 3.  God only knows when it'll actually be in stores, but Joe Mad started drawing X-Men about a year after I started reading it, so I'm pumped to see how his style has evolved over the years, and Ultimates is one of the few books Marvel puts out these days that I consistently enjoy.  Finally I'm interested to see Brian Wood's Northlanders.  For my money, DMZ is probably the best book on the stands right now so I can't wait to see how B Wood's next project turns out.

And congratulations, you guys got me to add The Killer to my wish list.  I just recently read From Hell for the first time and loved it, and this book sounds somewhat similar.  Am I close or way off on that one?  Either way, it sounds worth a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you guys said, I know I&#8217;m being manipulated, but I do find myself looking forward to World War Hulk.  Mainly I&#8217;m just hoping for a Marvel Universe comic that is fun to read.  Also on the Marvel front, I am excited to see Ultimates volume 3.  God only knows when it&#8217;ll actually be in stores, but Joe Mad started drawing X-Men about a year after I started reading it, so I&#8217;m pumped to see how his style has evolved over the years, and Ultimates is one of the few books Marvel puts out these days that I consistently enjoy.  Finally I&#8217;m interested to see Brian Wood&#8217;s Northlanders.  For my money, DMZ is probably the best book on the stands right now so I can&#8217;t wait to see how B Wood&#8217;s next project turns out.</p>
<p>And congratulations, you guys got me to add The Killer to my wish list.  I just recently read From Hell for the first time and loved it, and this book sounds somewhat similar.  Am I close or way off on that one?  Either way, it sounds worth a read.</p>
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		<title>By: c. towns</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4944</link>
		<dc:creator>c. towns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 23:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fourth world stuff is amazing. i'm aso looking forward to what will happen in Countdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fourth world stuff is amazing. i&#8217;m aso looking forward to what will happen in Countdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://comicpants.com/2007/05/comic-pants-podcast-25/comment-page-1/#comment-4943</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 20:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys... what about a new topic.  "Split Pants" where two divided fans discuss a series?  Sorry, this just popped into my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys&#8230; what about a new topic.  &#8220;Split Pants&#8221; where two divided fans discuss a series?  Sorry, this just popped into my head.</p>
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