ok ok but you gotta give me the Marvel Godzilla could beat She-hulk(G)

Oh I am just messing with ya. Evidently I have had to much free time lately. I give you kudos for making a Ronnie Lott reference in the first place.

don’t give too much credit it was one of three SF football people I COULD think of! Joe Montanta (his back probly hurts pretty bad
OJ guilty or not his brain is a mess.
ronnie still looks to be in shape
Besides in Current countiny Jim Morrison’s dead. So pretty easy to beat (grin)

Indy Anti-Heroes
• Grendel vs. Kabuki
• Marv vs. the Goon
• Enid (Ghost World) vs. Man-Eating Cow
• Robert Crumb vs. Harvey Pekar

ok ok but you gotta give me the Marvel Godzilla could beat She-hulk(G)

Oh I am just messing with ya. Evidently I have had to much free time lately. I give you kudos for making a Ronnie Lott reference in the first place.

Hmmm … didn’t you guys recently do a podcast in which you named Joker “best villian ever”? So, why wouldn’t he plow through this field?

Actually I think it was Dr. Doom who was voted super uber villain of choice. And yes he would plow through the field with a yolk of destruction.

Also wouldn’t anyone from LA beat up anyone from San Fransisco??? Thug Life Forever!!! Go Manhunter!!!

ANYONE? heck no I think Ronnie Lot could kick the crap out of Jim Morrison

Wow, that was extremely random. Actually Ronnie Lott was born in Albuquerque and went to college at USC, which is in L.A. Interestingly Jim Morrison went to school at UCLA, so there is a rivalry there. Thank you wikipedia!!!

Now for Indy characters for Rumble Pants:
Heath Houston aka Fear Agent
Basil Cronius from Godland
Hellboy
Battle Beast, Atom Eve, Mauler Twins, Monster Girl all from Invincible
Usagi Yojimbo
Melaka Fray

As for the indy round, I vote for:

Courtney Crumrin
Desolation Jones
The Goon
Adam Archer from Gødland
Abby from Boneyard
Invincible
Kabuki
Scott Pilgrim
Grendel
Kevin Matchstick from Mage
Amy Racecar from Stray Bullets

Hmmm … didn’t you guys recently do a podcast in which you named Joker “best villian ever”? So, why wouldn’t he plow through this field?

Actually I think it was Dr. Doom who was voted super uber villain of choice. And yes he would plow through the field with a yolk of destruction.

Also wouldn’t anyone from LA beat up anyone from San Fransisco??? Thug Life Forever!!! Go Manhunter!!!

ANYONE? heck no I think Ronnie Lot could kick the crap out of Jim Morrison

But very soon, either the next round or maybe the one after that, is the indy battles that folks have been talking about… so if anyone has suggestions for who should throw down (even if you don’t have a match for them, just a character in mind), let us know here in the comments.

Saxon from Mouseguard!

I’m not so good at English
And I’m not so good at Maff.
But I know I am not worthless,
Cuz I always make ‘em laff.

-Joker, 10th grade

Pumpkin I would highly recommend Manhunter. I agree with you and Randy that at first glance it does appear to just be another “dark” comic from the DC universe (hey at least its not tied into countdown, yet.) The thing I really enjoy about Manhunter is that it takes place in the DC universe, but is seemingly self contained. Perhaps it would have been better served to make it a Vertigo title. Also the second story arc is much more complex and draws you into a mystery as well as Kate Spencer’s life as a superhero and mother.

You know I gave the Manhunter book a try back the first time there was a buzz about saving the series, so I picked up the first trade and a few issues figuring I might be missing out on a good thing and if so, do my part to save a good book. But the book was just not too my liking. I found the main character abrasive and unlikable and the story of yet another murdering “hero” just reeked of more of that darkening of mainstream comics that I don’t particularly care for.

Honestly, this was much my reaction early on. I even stopped reading the book after about two or three issues, the first time around. But as I started reading more, I fell in love with the book, and went back to read all the issues and started buying the trades.

It definitely has its foundation in Identity Crisis, and features a lot of that dark, murderous, “real life” stuff that I generally hate in superhero universes, but I’ve come to like Kate Spencer as a flawed protagonist, especially since, starting with the second arc and going forward, a lot of the point has been about her starting to realize that she needs to be a better person, not just as a superhero but as a mom, a lawyer and just a human being.

Hmm may need to give it another look then, I heard a while back that it had been saved from cancellation a second time, but it just might internet rumor.

You know I gave the Manhunter book a try back the first time there was a buzz about saving the series, so I picked up the first trade and a few issues figuring I might be missing out on a good thing and if so, do my part to save a good book. But the book was just not too my liking. I found the main character abrasive and unlikable and the story of yet another murdering “hero” just reeked of more of that darkening of mainstream comics that I don’t particularly care for.

Honestly, this was much my reaction early on. I even stopped reading the book after about two or three issues, the first time around. But as I started reading more, I fell in love with the book, and went back to read all the issues and started buying the trades.

It definitely has its foundation in Identity Crisis, and features a lot of that dark, murderous, “real life” stuff that I generally hate in superhero universes, but I’ve come to like Kate Spencer as a flawed protagonist, especially since, starting with the second arc and going forward, a lot of the point has been about her starting to realize that she needs to be a better person, not just as a superhero but as a mom, a lawyer and just a human being.

Hmmm … didn’t you guys recently do a podcast in which you named Joker “best villian ever”? So, why wouldn’t he plow through this field?

Chris is right… it was Doom who was named best villain. And he did indeed claim the top prize in round two, against the Hulk.

Any chance all of the champions are going to go head to head at some point? Joker v. Harley?

I’ve been keeping tabs for just such a thing, although it’ll be a ways down the road. Sooner (although still not for a couple rounds) we’ll be looking at a “losers” round where several of those knocked out in the first round of competition get another go-round against other early drop-outs. I only need a couple more matches to make that one a go.

But very soon, either the next round or maybe the one after that, is the indy battles that folks have been talking about… so if anyone has suggestions for who should throw down (even if you don’t have a match for them, just a character in mind), let us know here in the comments.

Hmmm … didn’t you guys recently do a podcast in which you named Joker “best villian ever”? So, why wouldn’t he plow through this field?

Actually I think it was Dr. Doom who was voted super uber villain of choice. And yes he would plow through the field with a yolk of destruction.

Also wouldn’t anyone from LA beat up anyone from San Fransisco??? Thug Life Forever!!! Go Manhunter!!!

Any chance all of the champions are going to go head to head at some point? Joker v. Harley?

(I just noticed all of my sentences ended with questions. These are the kinds of things you think about when you majored in English or Journalism. I recommend avoiding both majors, unless you enjoy being obsessive compulsive.)